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Have requested Mods to send this out to members by PM, but some of you may miss that, so just in case you do.

Please sign, the more signatures we get, the better chance we have to get these agencies to consider our request! Thank you!

http://chng.it/NcyLzS2yGS

Yep--I signed this via another board. Highly recommended. Thanks for sharing it here, Mav.

Are we going to get to the heart of the matter - reinstating monies taken away from the national land agencies by Congress, so they can actually afford to implement things to restore public access? No money no fun. Ask yourself why there has to be nonprofit conservancies renting bear cans and giving out permits... nonprofit trail crews taking all the risks to open trails...

Good luck getting a kiosk anywhere without some nonprofit group raising funds and writing grants. It's how a whole bunch of other stuff gets done. There are programs on the National Forests that are funded by the state.

Just reserved a permit for Sierra National Forest.

I like the new system. You can get a refund if you cancel 12 or more days prior to your trip. Thus releasing permits for last minute backpackers! Awesome! Always been a pet peeve of mine that they don't re-use unclaimed permits - finally a mechanism to incentivize those late cancellers to GIVE THE PERMIT BACK.

Agreed. Far too often we have been in campgrounds that were "fully reserved" and yet 1/3 empty, simply because people made the reservation, changed their plans, and never let anyone know. Meanwhile, perfectly good campsites sit unused, and frustrated campers are stuck at home. Sounds like they are making an effort, at least, with these permits!

I used to coach an adult soccer team, and we had a great system for paying me. Each team member paid $200 at that the start of the season, and got back $5 every time they attended a practice. So if everyone attended every practice, I got paid little more than minimum wage. But since they didn't attend, I got paid a lot more, which made it a lot easier to deal with the frustrations of players not showing up...

Off topic posts need to stop. This thread was cleaned up - all off topic conversation removed. No more indulgence of grinding axes.