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help w planning a month long hike

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help w planning a month long hike

Postby rutherford » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:56 pm

I'm in need of some help with planning a trip to Yosemite around summer time. I'll be flying out there from Tennessee. I've never been but I've always been enamored with photos of yosemite. I am wanting to spend a month in the park at the longest. I need help finding the best hikes to fill my time period, possibly something I could loop together for a few nights out at a time. What do you think are the must sees of the park? Do the stores in yosemite carry backpacking food? Are there shuttle services available in case I can't loop all my hikes together. And lastly, what's the deal with bear canisters? In the Smoky Mountains, we have pulley systems that you strap your packs/food items to and hoist it into the air so bears can't get to it. Do you have those in yosemite? Is a bear canister something that's left at the campsite or would I need to bring my own? Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks
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Postby AlmostThere » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:24 am

Welcome to the forum!

http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/backpacking.htm

Yes, you need a bear canister. No, you cannot hang food, the bears will get it, and it's against the rules. You can rent a canister - the park will rent a Garcia or you can rent one by mail from Wild Ideas, or from one of the local outfitters like REI. If you don't go out more than a week between stops at a resupply/store, you will be fine with the Garcia. If you want to hike for longer between resupplies, the Bearikade (one of the larger sizes) might be better and can be rented/purchased directly from Wild Ideas - and if it makes more sense to buy for the length of time you're out there, it would be very, very easy to sell it used if you don't want to keep it. I usually recommend the Bearikade to people who haven't used a bear canister before, packing them is an art form, and the first time you use it you'll see why. Foods in ziploc bags that flow together - granola, couscous, rice, oatmeal - are easier to pack in them than bricks of vac-sealed food.

There will be some places you can camp and use bear boxes - the High Sierra camps, the campgrounds, and Little Yosemite Valley all have bear boxes. But it sounds like you will be doing a lot more than those spots.

The above link will answer questions about permits (you need wilderness permits for each distinct trip you take into the backcountry, they are free if you do not reserve them). If you intend to start legs of your journey from very popular trailheads like Happy Isles, Sunrise, and Cathedral Lakes, or from Tuolumne Meadows area, you may have to be flexible in starting times. There are quotas for all the trailheads and they are very very strict about it. Carefully read the pages on food storage as well. You can incur stiff fines for not following their rules - the bears are very, very active in trying to get your food and they put all the responsibility of keeping them from doing so on the people.

There are a lot of guidebooks and maps you can get to plan your trips. Sierra North by Kathy Morey and Mike White would give you a lot of info on Yosemite and surrounding areas, which if you have a month would be helpful - personally, if I had a month, I would be spending a good portion of it on the John Muir trail, which ends on Mt Whitney. Yosemite is a beautiful place, absolutely, but the Sierras are full of beauty and a lot of it is on that trail, which also passes through Sequoia-Kings Canyon to the south.

If you want to spend your entire trip inside the park there are shuttles to help you get around and YARTS to help you get into the park in the first place. www.yarts.com and www.yosemitepark.com (for shuttles within the park, stores, and accommodations including the High Sierra Camps and hotels) will have detailed information on fees and schedules. There are a few stores that will have backpacking supplies and general groceries, in Tuolumne Meadows, Curry Village and Yosemite Village in the valley, and at Wawona.

If you only visit Yosemite once, the must-sees would be basically the WHOLE PARK. :lol: But in particular, Glacier Road (Sentinel Dome, Taft/Dewey/Crocker Points, Glacier Point, and the trailheads to Ostrander Lake/Lost Bear Meadow/Mono Meadow/Ilillouette Falls), the valley itself with all its crowds, and Tioga Road (many many trailheads and overlooks). Hiking Happy Isles to Half Dome and points beyond is standard - with the time you have, I would do it in reverse, ride the hiker bus out to Sunrise trailhead or Cathedral trailhead, hike from Tioga Road down to Happy Isles, stopping at Clouds Rest and Half Dome on the downhill rather than going up. They are actually on the first leg of the John Muir Trail, the official starting trailhead is Happy Isles. The redwood groves are nice but the trails don't really connect with backpacking trails. In summer the shuttles and hiker bus will help you get to them.

You might consider having a day for riding a tour bus to Glacier Point, doing the tourist thing, and hitting the Pohono or Panorama trail (with permit) from there. (You'll want to pay special attention to where you can actually camp on this trail, around Bridalveil Creek, since you can't camp between the point and Bridalveil.) Walking along the south rim to Wawona Tunnel and catching a shuttle or hitching a ride (or walking) down into the valley, doing tourist things for a day while camping in the backpacker campground (the cheapest place to stay, and only for the night before or after your backpack(s)), and hitting the trail from Happy Isles and out. If you end up at Tuolumne Meadows from there, you can ride the hiker bus (small fee, depending on destination) to another trailhead and go to any of the numerous Tioga Pass destinations, including the north rim (stopping at North Dome, El Capitan, Eagle Peak and similar overlooks).

All hypotheticals, and all dependent on your physical fitness and ability to hike multiple outings one after the other - I hope you intend to condition yourself for this, as it's a lot of hiking up and down some steep terrain. The trails themselves are well maintained but the elevation gain can really hit you hard if you have not hiked at that elevation much. The most important part of your planning should be for your safety -- you might want to be flexible enough and have enough resources that if you do one backpack, and you are struggling, you might re-do your itinerary with short dayhikes and longer front-country stays, instead of spending the entire month backpacking. It might be prudent, if you don't know for certain how you will react at elevations 5,000-12,000 feet, to plan the first few weeks in areas of the park that are lower, giving you time to acclimate before heading up trails to Ten Lakes Pass or Donahue Pass.

Order some Harrison Maps and some guidebooks. You'll find comprehensive information to make more informed decisions on routing in them.
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Postby orion » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:29 pm

If you've got a month, you should just buy a bear can. REI sells them. Sounds like it might be useful back home - you won't be constrained by camping next to a pully. Get one that has the wide lid and see-through sides. The ones they rent in Yosemite suck - heavier, smaller, harder to open. Bears are generally only a problem near the valley, easy trailhead access campsites, and high sierra camps - same goes for people.

I would pick a route that takes you to a lake a good two days from the trail head, and at least one day away from a high sierra camp - avoid camping next to one of those too.

Pick a lake with good granite around it, use google earth to see this. On the map, a good rule is the isolines get steep close to a lake, which means the lake is deep and beautiful next to a cliff.

Don't worry so much about doing a loop. Generally you see very little with a heavy pack on your back on a marked trail. Use these to get somewhere, set up camp, then do day hikes around to really see what Yosemite has to offer. Or do the standard trails for the standard vistas, wait in line for the cables at Half Dome to say you did it, etc. Basically, the valley is where the tourists who smell like soap and deoderant from 50 yds. go, which is fine, but the rest of Yosemite is where its really at.

I've only used a guide book once, and that was to see where everyone else would be. They don't tell you anything you couldn't figure out with a map and some imagination, and these days google earth makes it too easy, no mystery left. It's really hard to go wrong in Yosemite, unless you are unprepared for mosquitos in July, or get too close to raging waters without pretending the rock is made of ice. The whole place is beautiful. have fun.
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Postby orion » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:32 pm

One book you should buy is Sierra Nevada Natural History by Tracy Storer and Robert Usinger, by far the best all purpose book for the backpack in the Sierras.
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Postby balzaccom » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:31 pm

Good advice here. Instead of trying to focus on a single loop, why not try four or five shorter trips. Your pack will be lighter, and you can still get into some pretty isolated territory. And just about anywhere in Yosemite is spectacular...

If you are interested, our website has quite a few suggested trips in Yosemite...and you could probably do them all in that month!

Here's link to our page on Yosemite trails:

http://www.backpackthesierra.com/home/d ... tioga-pass
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