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Phil wrote:Nah, fire away. You're here, and we'll get over it.
That YARTS link didn't work, so here's one that should:
http://yarts.com/routes-schedules/
balzaccom wrote:Phil's been doing a good job with these questions, but it's about time he had a little help: My answers in ALL CAPS
Firing away now...
Day 1 - 24 Sep 2016
Depart the trailhead around 0900 at the latest. Our first night will be spent at Sunrise Lakes, the middle one to be specific. WHICH TRAILHEAD? FROM SUNRISE/TENAYA LAKE, THIS IS ONLY ABOUT FOUR MILES. YOU WILL BE THERE BEFORE LUNCH. GOT PLANS FOR THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON? WANT MORE ADVENTURE, SOLITUDE, AND BEAUTY? KEEP GOING OVER TO ECHO CANYON AND X-COUNTRY TO ECHO LAKE....
We are using the Tenaya Lake trailhead. Your recommendation for Echo Lake is intriguing, but I am concerned about some of the folks in my group. I may have to do that one with a buddy or two on a different trip.
Day 2 - 25 Sep 2016
Depart around 0900 again and make camp just below CR. AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT THREE MILES. IF YOU HIKE AT ONE MILE PER HOUR YOU WILL STILL BE THERE BY NOON. MOST PEOPLE HIKE FASTER THAN THAT. UNLESS YOU MEAN THAT YOU ARE GOING HIKE OVER THE TOP OF CLOUDS REST AND CAMP ON THE FAR SIDE? THAT'S A NICE WAY TO SPEND A DAY...BUT MAKES THE NEXT DAY CONFUSING TO ME.
The plan was to stroll into camp below CR, not crest over and continue down. That is the plan for the following day. I was thinking of making camp in that sort of flat area just after the pack trail splits from CRT. That would keep us in the trees and not so exposed.
Day 3 - 26 Sep 2016
Depart around 0900 and make camp where the CRT and JMT intersect. I THINK YOU COULD CAMP HERE THE NIGHT BEFORE THIS...WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU AN EXTRA DAY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE....
I will look at my map again. My concern is pushing people too hard, but I'd like to explore this idea some more and have it in my pocket depending on how the group feels. What else would you recommend if you were doing the planning for this trip?
Day 4 - 27 Sep 2016
Depart around 0900 enroute the top of HD. Not sure if we will leave our gear at the base of HD. Plan to hike down to LYV and spend our last night there.
Day 5 - 28 Sep 2016
Depart around 0900 enroute Curry Village for a beer and some pizza, maybe a shower and then drive home. THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE YOUR LONGEST DAY, BUT IT'S ALL DOWNHILL, AND YOUR PACKS WILL BE LIGHTER, SO NO WORRIES. PLUS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK SMUGLY AT THE TOURISTS WHO ARE STRUGGLING UP ON THEIR DAY HIKE. BE SURE TO MENTION YOU'VE BEEN BACKPACKING FOR FOUR OR FIVE DAYS...
I will be leading the trip with 5 other folks that have little to no backpacking experience. They have all purchased backpacks, tents, bags, pads, and all sorts of other gear for the trip. At this point the crew is in fairly good physical condition, but they are all working on getting into better shape. I am planning to do a couple of warm-up trips before we make the trip listed above.
Any and all advice is welcome...
balzaccom wrote:Yeah--I meant to mention that, too. late September weather can be fabulous, but it can also bring the first big storm. With newbies along, you don't want to be trying to find the trail under a foot of snow...or sleeping in temps that are too cold for your equipment. Be prepared to bail to another route and still have fun.
CGSteve wrote:The plan was to stroll into camp below CR, not crest over and continue down. That is the plan for the following day. I was thinking of making camp in that sort of flat area just after the pack trail splits from CRT. That would keep us in the trees and not so exposed.
Phil wrote:One last thing- Who are these people you're guiding, Steve? Kids? Adults? I'm just curious.
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